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About a month ago I signed up for a VSM pistol 2 class. After completing a the VSM 1 I was eager to jump back in and see what the next class had to offer. I was told by a friend there was one coming shortly so I jumped on it as soon as it became open. I will give you a brief rundown of what to expect  without trying to give away too much of the class. I think it is only fair to the instructors and Vickers Tactical not to give away too much.

The Class was held at Tusco Gun Club which is a very fine club. I want to thank them again for having the class at their facility. I had never been there before and heard a lot of nice things about how great of a facility it was and was very happy to see all the rumors were true.

Tusco Gun Club is a top notch facility with great amenities.

Tusco Gun Club is a top notch facility with great amenities.

Just like the VSM 1 this class was again taught by Grant from G & R Tactical and his trusty sidekick Ben. The day started out with a short safety briefing and we quickly were out on the range for our warm up test. I started the day on a high note by passing scoring 5 points higher than the first class. After the test we worked on efficient drawing.  This seems like a simple concept but if you put your draw against a timer you will more than likely see there is room for improvement. Grant did a good job of breaking it down. He pointed out one mistake I was making and it helped me pick the front sight up faster but I still need much practice. I made my fastest draw time to shoot on target ever which was 1.3 sec.(before it was 1.6). I want to touch on this in the future because this is a very important piece of the self-defense puzzle that I feel goes over looked.

After the draws we moved on to cover Turns. We all walk and turn our bodies everyday and never have to think about it but putting that in motion with drawing and firing is a whole new ballgame. I will never look and how I turn my body the same way again. I did realize one thing about myself during this potion of the class. I am left-handed and right footed. I naturally pivot on my strong foot, which isn’t a problem, it is just backwards to most people. A right-handed person usually will look over their right shoulder when searching the area behind them and lefties look over their left. I naturally look over my right shoulder instead of my left. The thing that I had in my favor is the lifetime of soccer I have played and the turn drills were much like foot work drills I was used to from years ago. I picked up on my “uniqueness” quickly and was able to use it to my advantage after a while.

A shot of some of the class participants.

A shot of some of the class participants.

Shooting and moving came after lunch. Forward, backwards, and lateral were all covered.  This is also something that very few people get to try seeing as most ranges around the country are static. Most ranges will not even let you draw from a holster anymore let alone move while shooting. Again everyone needs to experience this at least once.

The rest of the day we did drills that incorporated all the stuff previously covered. Drawing, Turns, Moving and shooting. There were some looks at pistol effectiveness at distance covered also.

I had a good day and learned a bit about myself throughout the day. I realized I need to keep using the shot timer but I need to take my shooting back further. When I go to the range I am usually shooting between 3-7 yards which is your basic concealed carry distances. If you go to a Vickers class prepare yourself for distance. I also realized I need to get myself into some form of competition shooting. When I go to the range and shoot with my buddies I am calm and never find myself stressed. When I am in a class such as the one over the weekend and I am put out in front of a group of strangers I crumble. I found myself standing there waiting for the shot timer to go off thinking “Don’t screw up.” I need to get myself more accustomed to the stress of performing in front of other. Like I told the instructor after the class, I can take a list of drills and times to the range and perform  them when it is just me and one or two buddies but when it comes to the same drills with an audience I miss the times by nearly a second. All in all it was a great class and again I learned some stuff to practice and added plenty of tips and tricks that I can pass along to my future students.

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Wow! What a great day. I think everyone will agree it was a very humbling and exhausting day. The amount of knowledge absorbed in such a short amount of time was immense.

The day started out like any normal class with a safety briefing and discussing range commands. Then it was into the range where we started the first test. The class was spotted with tests to gauge the shooter’s ability. All tests were pass fail. As requested by the instructors I won’t put the details on here so future students can’t game them. All these tests were designed to push the shooter out of their comfort zone and show the shooter what an advanced shooter is capable of on command with no warm up. Myself and one of my shooting buddies tied with passing two tests each. I will give him all the credit of being the top shooter of the day he was consistent on all the drills where I struggled at times. One other shooter passed with one test. As I said it was a very humbling for everyone in the class. Every shooter I talked to at dinner following the class said they walked away with at least something they can work on at the range the next time they go out. Whether it’s ball and dummy drills, drawing from concealment, or in my case not letting my nerves get the best of me everyone walked away knowing more about themselves as a shooter. I will cover some drills to practice in the future.

I also realized one thing about the group of shooters I shoot with on a weekly basis. I am very fortunate to have a group of guys who will push me to be a better shooter every time we go to the range. Everyone needs to get a shot timer and one or two buddies who will mock, ridicule, and abuse you if you are last on a drill. It makes you a better shooter. My friends and I are already talking about the next class we can take because we want to fight for that top spot again.

The class was put on by G&R Tactical. The lead instructor Grant was full of knowledge and a great teacher. He wasnt afraid to demonstrate any of the tests he asked his students to perform. The same goes for the assistant Ben. I said in earlier posts how I feel it is essential for a trainer to demonstrate what he expects out of his students and meet or exceed his own standards.  We were even fortunate enough to see Ben perform his famous upside down between his legs shot. I will have another write up on Grant and G&R Tactical in a later post.

One more thing that made the day a memoriable one was on the last test of the day one of our readers, and a good friend of mine had a little problem. He was flying through the last drill of the day when BOOM!!! The magazine in his Glock 19 flies out the bottom of his gun and out of insticnt and reflex he throws the rest of the gun to the ground. We all knew there was a problem because he sound of the shot was something we hadnt heard all day long. Reader H was ok, he had a blackened hand and was kinda shocked. After we counted 5 digits on each of H’s hands we started inspecting the gun. The easiest way to describe it was it was hollowed out by what we are figuring was an over charged round from the factory. The run down of damage is mag blew out the bottom as I already said, the mag release went flying, the trigger was broken into pieces, extractor broke in half, and the frame cracked. All of this is expected out of a modern day gun if you have a failure of this level. If it wasn’t for the Glock safety features the extent of his injuries would have been have been horrible.

I talked to Reader H today and he said he has a bit of a blood blister or just some wicked brusing on his trigger finger he thinks it could be from the trigger breaking or the pressure that exited through where the trigger used to be.  H also told me it seemed as if the gun actually swelled in his hand as the gun when off. He knew something was wrong when he heard the sound of the round and said it took him a second to throw the gun down and feel the pain that he described as someone smacking his hand extremely hard. All in all he is in good spirits and in already looking for another new gen 4 19 for a replacement. He also asked me not to mention what manufacturer the ammo was until he gives them a chance to make it right. If they dont he said I am free to run them through the mud, and make sure everyone knows what to expect if they would happen to have a problem using this particular brand.

We got a few pictures:

missing extractor

Missing extractor


The blown out mag and some of the pieces off to the right side we found.

shooters hand

Reader H’s hand and some more fragmented pieces.

inside extractor

Looking inside you can see where the extractor broke and part is still in the slide.

internal shot

Looking into the barrel you can see some of the cartridge that remained

side profile broken trigger

A shot of the broken trigger and missing mag release.

cracked frame

The crack in the frame.

group shot vsm pistol 1

Group shot. All fingers were accounted for!

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I have looked forward to this weekend for 2 months now. Me and a few other readers and local shooting buddies are taking a Vickers Shooting Methods Pistol I class on Saturday.

The class description off Vickers site describes its as:

This class is for shooters who have had at least a basic pistol class either from Vickers Tactical or any other accredited instructor. State concealed carry certification classes specifically do not qualify. Topics covered include basic pistol topics and the following: malfunction drills, shooting on the move as well as strong hand and weak hand shooting. Introduction to timed fire drills and evaluations based on class skill level. Concealed carry methods are also covered. Night-fire will depend on time of year and range restrictions.

The guys at G&R Tactical are putting it on for us. They described it as “a heavy diagnostics class where we closely examine what you are doing as a shooter. Every round counts and you will be have to push hard in order to pass many of the tests and drills.”

I wanted to just do a run down on the gear I will be using and testing at the class. Starting from the top down I will be running my Howard Leight electronic muffs. As always I’ll be rocking my Suunto Core that you have seen in some of the recent Facebook pics I recently put up. Around my I’ll be wearing my ATS War Belt  (that you can also see in the recent Facebook pic) with ATS’ mag pouches and a G-Code holster with the 2.5″ drop attachment. Lastly I will be sporting my trusty pair of 5.11 pants that I have worn the crap out of and have been meaning to write a review on. As usual I will be shooting the work horse, my stock Glock 19. This is the gun I carry concealed daily and lays by my bed at night. If we do any low light shooting I will be blasting the dark away with my Streamlight ProTac that I reviewed recently.

I have been meaning to write a review on the War Belt setup but haven’t felt that I have run it through the ringer enough to give a good enough review to satisfy myself. Hopefully after this class that will change and I can bring you one shortly.

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